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From Loss to Lifted: Amanda's Journey of Grief, Grace & God's Calling
What if the hardest day of your life became the first step toward your calling? That’s the heartbeat of Renee's conversation with her faith filled friend Amanda West, a mother of two who loved fiercely, lost suddenly, and learned to soar by leaning into God’s strength and a faithful community. Her story begins with a marriage built on showing up at 110% and pivots into the raw aftermath of widowhood, where breath-by-breath perseverance meets the conviction that only moments and relationships endure.
Amanda opens up about her faith journey, from growing up as a Jehovah’s Witness to encountering the Holy Spirit through a single worship song. Saying yes to Jesus meant excommunication and a decade apart from her parents, yet it also meant the discovery of grace and the freedom from earning love through deeds. She shares how Scripture, especially Isaiah 40:31, became a lifeline, teaching her to wait on the Lord and rise like an eagle in the face of overwhelming loss.
We also dig into the practical side of healing: how friends, neighbors, and church family carried visible and invisible burdens; how serving others sparked fresh joy; and what dating after loss really looks like when grief arrives in waves. Amanda’s candid wisdom helps anyone navigating widowhood, single parenting, or starting again with a tender heart. She explains why mixed-age discipleship groups transform singles ministry, how churches can support without turning community into courtship, and why God wastes none of our stories, especially the heavy ones.
If you’re wrestling with love, loss, faith, or the courage to try again, this episode offers honest hope and grounded tools. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs strength for the next step, and leave a review to help others find the conversation. Then tell us: which moment spoke to you most, and why?
Hi, I'm Renee Richel, the founder and president of 1 True Match. I'm here to help you find and cultivate the love of your life. For over a decade, I've dedicated my life to the importance, purpose, and dynamic of human relationships. My team and I are disciplined by faith, love, and integrity to help our clients find the quality relationships they've always dreamt of. Each week I will be sharing the tools and tips I've learned that have rooted my success as a matchmaker with other leaders around the world. Hello loves. Welcome back. I am beyond excited to be sitting here with a very, very special guest right here next to me, Amanda West, who is a dear friend and sister in Christ. That I cannot wait for her to share her incredible story and journey that she has walked to get us to sitting on these chairs today, sharing her story with all of you and the world to be a light, an inspiration, and encouragement. So welcome, Amanda.
Amanda West:Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's an honor to be here.
Renee Richel:So when I met Amanda, I don't even know, maybe almost a year ago or so. Not very long, but I got to hear your journey and your story and uh, you know, your walk, I guess I would say, with your faith. Today, what I want to do is obviously ask you more questions and for you to share with our audience how through the thick of things, you can still find happiness in joy. So, Amanda, not only is she beautiful, she is a mother of two young, incredible children, a boy and a girl. And she had found the love of her life. Uh, and at a young age that she is, not disclosing what how old we are, right? She is also a widow. And we have so many of our clients and just in general, matches and God that has brought us widows. Um, so I'm excited for you to share with our audience what it's like to be a single mom, but also find true love, but also be navigating through the grieving period and to be ready to be out there and date and and have that confidence with the Lord in you and through you. So let's start off by asking just some questions uh that I feel are really important that are here to share. Well, let's go. I'm looking forward to it. So, how has both love and loss shaped your life today?
Amanda West:Very much so. Both have. Um, I was married to my belated husband, Paul, for nine and a half years. And hands down, it was it was my and has been my favorite chapter of life. And it was because our love story was so beautiful. And it wasn't that it was easy, it wasn't perfect by any means, but we were both in 110%. No matter what it was, we showed up for each other, which I think is what it's all about at the end of the day. Yeah. And he just had such a beautiful way of looking at life and living life to the fullest. Um, he had a beautiful way of loving me, loving the kids, and also loving everyone around him, which I think it's kind of lost in the track sometimes. We get in a red of day-to-day life and and forget what life truly is about, right? So then when I lost him, that was, of course, a really defining moment in life, right? Not something that you would ever see coming. And I think the biggest thing that I took from it almost immediately is that it's the moments that make everything. You can't take anything with you. Nothing.
Renee Richel:That's true.
Amanda West:And the only thing you leave behind, truly, that's worth anything is the memories. So, what are we doing to cultivate those relationships within our family and within every person that we speak to and come in contact with? What does that last conversation look like? Right? Right, because you just never know. You never know. And what kind of impact can you have on them? Not just not just in the little things, but are you leaving behind little little trickles of of Jesus? Do they see Jesus in you as you walk away?
Renee Richel:Which I'm sure your kids do every day, and you instill that in them, just hearing about the kids and just in general, how much heart they have from mom, and I'm sure they still feel the spirit of dad overlooking them now, right? Absolutely, absolutely.
Amanda West:So tell me, how did you guys meet? We met in Virginia Beach actually at a surfing contest, which I do not surf, I still do not surf. Um, I was I hopped in on a girls' trip and I happened to be living in Tampa and I was moving to Jacksonville, and I assumed when I met him that he lived in Virginia Beach. I didn't know anything about him, but it was like lightning struck when I met him. And he happened to share in conversation that he lived in Neptune Beach. And I was like, Really? He goes, Where do you live? And I said, Well, I live in Tampa, but I moved into Jacksonville in a few months. And we dated a few months long distance, and then once I moved to town, that was it. The rest was his painted a beautiful story for your connection.
Renee Richel:Yes. Well, I love that because our audience is either in a relationship, they are prayerfully praying and waiting to meet that person. And we always want to know when and where did God strike you, right? Both of you to fall in love. So I love to hear that. Can you share with us your story of coming to know Christ, which I know you have a very interesting path in that journey?
Amanda West:I do. I will um I'll try to condense it. So I was raised Jehovah's Witness, and I started questioning the truth, probably in my teenage years, but it was shut down very quickly by my parents. This this is the way, this is how we will do things in this household. So at 19, I really was like, I am going to dive into this. And Jehovah's Witnesses have their own Bible, but they say it's the same as King James, just a little more translated, easier to read. So I got the King James Bible out and I just started digging in. And it didn't take long for me to figure out that, you know, there's words changed and verses here that ultimately changed the entire scripture meeting. So in that time frame, I also had a really good friend invite me to church. And Jehovah's Witnesses, they are completely against attending any other church. That is really the ultimate sin. I had been invited multiple times through friends in school that were Christians to come and visit their church, and it was that is just not an option. But in this time of me trying to find answers and digging for what the real truth was with the Lord, I said yes to her. And I showed up at church and I walked in, and I will never forget that they were singing the song Hosanna. And Jehovah's Witnesses do not listen to Christian music, they have their own songbook and worship that they do. So I really had never heard Christian music. So just it was like chills all over my body. And immediately tears just started streaming. And I couldn't even tell you why in that moment. But I did realize really quickly that what I had just experienced was the Holy Spirit for the first time in my entire life.
Renee Richel:That was amazing.
Amanda West:And I sat down, I listened to the sermon, it was a beautiful sermon. And when I left that day, I felt two things. I felt loved, and I felt like I was a good person, and I had never experienced that. And you were how old at this age? I was probably about 19 or 20. Okay.
Renee Richel:Which is a huge pinful moment in your life. Chapters.
Amanda West:Yes. So moving forward that day, I drove away and I was like, Lord, I do not know what I have been taught my whole life, but I do know it's not the truth. And I am just going to let you continue to lead me. And that was the resolution that I made that day. And I just kept leaning in. And in time, elders within the church asked, you know, what are you doing? You're not attending. So I was honest and said, I've been attending another church. And within within weeks, there was an announcement made that I was no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses from the platform. And when that happens, it's excommunication. No one speaks to you, you're completely cut off. So I lost my parents and I was very close to my mom. Um, all of my friends that I had grown up with, the majority of my community. I had my friends at work, but really my whole life had been surrounded by that. And I just thought, I'm not gonna live by something that's not the truth. So I just continued to lean in on God. I was also married, was married at a very young age. And um, in time it was divorce, and then God led me to move to Jacksonville and in the midst, I met Paul in the midst of that move, which was just such a beautiful blessing. And Paul told me he was like, I really think you would love my church here locally, that I've I haven't been attending very long, but I would love for you to come along. So I did, and we attended 1122 together, and I immediately felt like I was getting answers to the questions that I had.
Renee Richel:I love that.
Amanda West:It was very much so truth about the Bible, speaking truth about the word, which I loved. And it was not, I would say within a few months that Pastor Joby was speaking about he was speaking about the deeds. There's so it's so often that we live by deeds in life and what that gets you, what a good deed gets you. And I lived my whole life feeling like I had to do all these good deeds to get to the pot of gold, right? And he's like, there is nothing, there is nothing that you can do that will earn your way to heaven.
Renee Richel:That's true.
Amanda West:It's actually insulting to the Lord to think that there is something that you can do to earn your way there. And when he said that, it was it all clicked to me. And it was like a weight had just been taken off of my shoulders, and I knew right that. And was this before you were married? It was before Paul and I were married. Yes. Okay, yes.
Renee Richel:So just little affirmations.
Amanda West:Little affirmations, right? And it was in that moment that I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior, and it wasn't long after that that I made the public declaration.
Renee Richel:That's awesome. I love it.
Amanda West:Amazing. And of course, it's been, you know, a beautiful journey every since.
Renee Richel:And that give everybody the timeline.
Amanda West:How long ago was that 12, 13 years ago. Okay. Yeah. And I will say I went a decade without having my family in my life. They did, my parents are back in my life. And they are still practicing Jehovah's Witnesses. But I have and no doubt that one day they will walk with me.
Renee Richel:And I wish that. Well, we're gonna continue to pray for that too. And it's just the power of God, right? Uh putting that bridge out there that you were so faithful in prayer to create that relationship to rebond for the sake of your kids and everything else. So I just love that they are now back in your life and that God has healed that relationship to be strong again, too. So we'll pray for that as well. In what ways did the body of believers buoy you after your husband passed?
Amanda West:That question puts tears in my eyes because when I look back at even before Paul's passing and truly think about it, I'm like, God was putting things into play for me before I ever would have known. And not only did I have the church and my church community that was there for me immediately, right? And I had long-lasting friends. I have a wonderful street that I live on. Two of my dearest friends live right on my street. So I really was surrounded with incommunity people. Yeah. But the one thing that I didn't realize that I had was the community. I knew when I moved here that I had moved to a beautiful place and it took time to build relationships, right? But I really had no idea the community that I had surrounding me. And God, God put that right in front of my face. I mean, everyone pulled together. And even though I grieved privately and people gave me that space, I had no doubt that I wasn't surrounded with so much prayer and people being willing to do anything and everything that me and the kids needed at any moment in time.
Renee Richel:I love that. It was it's so it just also goes to show the deep relationships that you've spent time planting the seeds and growing, right? Too. Because I hear so many times from widows is like, you know, I mean, people are there, but then they're not months down the road afterwards. And it's like who's there to still uplift you and support you and and really just be your rock through what's new in your life to come, too. Yes.
Amanda West:So I love that. Yes, it's interesting you say that because I did hear that often in the beginning. Be prepared, like you're gonna have a ton of support right now, and then it drips off. And in some ways, it's a it was definitely a change of support, right? Like everyone's not right there, like coddling bringing you dinner or something. Um, but to this day, I still feel like anybody and everybody is just right there and ready to step in if I ask for help.
Renee Richel:I love that.
Amanda West:I love that.
Renee Richel:Since you are such a light to so many people, which that's why I wanted to bring you on. We're gonna do so many more things together to empower individuals that not only have gone through, you know, being a single parent, being widowed, being divorced. I mean, you can speak to so many people going through the emotional roller coaster, having their faith, and you know, being born again is um what is an encouraging word you would like to share with others that has faced um unexpected tragedies?
Amanda West:I would say so often when things get hard, people quit. And I would say don't quit. Fight harder, fight harder. And in those beginning moments, especially in the beginning moments of loss and and grief, I mean you are just you are you are hanging on for every moment of breath, honestly. And if you just lean in to God, he's right there. He doesn't go anywhere. We create these boundaries, he has no boundaries, he's ready, willing, and able at all moments to be there for us and lean in and just know that there is joy on the other side of this. He promises you that there will be joy, and the more you lean in, you you ultimately just become like he takes the steps for you, he carries it out for you. And it's not to say that it won't be hard, there will be hard days, there will be hard times. I can remember the very first night that I put the kids to bed after Paul passed. And I looked them both dead in the eye, and I said, This hands down was probably the hardest day of your entire life. That's so true. But we did it with God and tomorrow is going to be the second hardest day of your entire life. But we will do it with God, yes, you can do hard things, and God will make those hard things so much easier if you just lean in and ask him, ask help, ask him for help. Yeah, he will give it to you.
Renee Richel:Well, I mean, just going back to the beginning of your story, right? When God was testing you to walk out in faith in a completely alone feeling, to trust in him to lead you to where you are today. So he's definitely equipped you with a lot of knowledge and the best love in this entire earth that we can ever have is God's love. Absolutely. You're making me now cheer up as we think about just the blessing that you and Paul have left in your children for all the things that they're gonna do. I can't wait to witness and see what they will do in life as well. When did you know you were ready to start dating again?
Amanda West:So I can't say that there was this aha moment or light bulb that flashed green. And I was like, okay, it's time to do this. There was definitely not that moment.
Renee Richel:Other than, of course, when we connected with you, because we're always recruiting and scouting, and we found out about you through a dear friend.
Amanda West:So I grief is such an interesting thing in the way that it can come and go. It's always with you. But I think that it ultimately life just has a way of winding things and people coming into your pathway, right? And and it just kind of evolves from there. However, I do think it's so important to just read your feelings and be honest with your feelings as to each step that you take with it. There were definitely moments where I stepped in into dating, and then I was like, ultimately, it opened up another level of grief for me. And I'm like, whoa, these are emotions I haven't experienced or walked yet. So there was times that I would take a step back. And then you come to realize, like, oh, this is something, these, these em this, these emotions come with me all along the journey, right? So I think it's also a really unique way to know if you're with the right person with who you're dating when those emotions arise. Are they there to hold your hand? Are they there to and and solid within themselves when you say, Hey, I I'm gonna have to have a moment. This is hard. I'm in a hard space right now. Yeah. And those are moments that you truly get to know like, is this the person that that is gonna stand beside me and the hard moments too? Because now this is truly a part of my journey for the rest of my life. Yeah. And it gets easier and the waves are not as often, right? But that all comes along with it. And I think I I don't necessarily, some people might feel like that they've had that green light moment, but it was never a beaming green light moment for me as to when to start dating. It was just like, okay, life's taking these next steps.
Renee Richel:And God is the best navigator to truly let us know when we're ready and meeting people in the right timing, always his timing, like connecting, I always say, is just seeing what he's up to every day is the joy and excitement of curiosity. Absolutely. Right. Okay, what is your heartbeat and mission for women ministry?
Amanda West:I love this. It just I'm on fire right now to help other women and help lead them and and where they're where life is going to take them with the Lord. I think that I just want women to experience the relationship with the Lord that He's willing and able to give them every single day. There is nothing that's more fulfilling than what He can give us.
Renee Richel:Amen.
Amanda West:And He gives it to us for free. We spend so much time pursuing all these things that we think are going to bring us joy, ultimately, it usually cost us money as well, right? It's very true. He offers it for free, and it is the most fulfilling thing that we can ever experience in our entire life. And I just truly, I especially women who have experienced a lot of loss or a heavy loss. I look at that and I'm like, oh, God has a calling on your life because you've been given a story that's not meant to be laid in vain. He wants you to speak out and to stand up for it and to use it for his glory. Yes. And I just want to be able to help walk women in that journey and lead them towards the Lord and what he's called them to do.
Renee Richel:Which I love to hear that. And I'm excited for our audience to hear a lot more from you in the future, uh, with just helping, because you know what we always say, what our mission is to change the divorce rate. How do we do that? Starting with the right godly person that is ready for true love, that sees the value and the um, you know, just the joy, but also work it takes to be happily and successfully married to the right person, um, and then shower that relationship with encouragement throughout their uh journey of love and marriage, um, to just bring a happier world together of what true love is. Um but it begins with oneself. And I love speaking, I just did a speaking engagement uh last night actually with a group of women, uh, giving them hope to find love again. And the truth that is incredible in all of them is that we, when we were praying, how we don't pray for ourselves often enough. And we're always praying for other people. But when we stop and reflect and start to pray for the things that we need most, and we start and spend time with God to truly know our own identity, then we can be so much stronger as soldiers to him, right? Ambassadors of God building his kingdom, one person in community at a time. And it takes a village, it takes a village today. And that's why I'm so excited you're here with us. Because I say to all of us, we need more help talking to more people about this love that you feel that is just so infectious. When I first met you, obviously, I already just felt the connection to the Holy Spirit and just that just you're a beautiful person inside and out with all that you've been through. It just radiates. So I'm excited for you to continue to speak to all of our loving hearts out there, whatever journey they're on, to be a pearls of wisdom and knowledge and encouragement. How has your life experience shaped you for to serve others?
Amanda West:Well, I definitely believe everything that I've been through, it's almost like a a cabinet, a filing cabinet, right? Of all these little nuggets that I've gone through. And I I know that God just hasn't given those to me to just leave in that filing cabinet, right? He wants me to use those to help other people. And throughout the journey, the one thing that I can take from all of it is that in the hardest moments, when I was able to still do for others, instead of focusing on whatever it was that I was in at the moment, that's when the joy came in. And to correlate those two things, like here you are with all of this knowledge of what you've walked, and to absolutely know that in the hardest moments, the best ways to still find joy and be able to step forward is by helping the person next to you. I know, hands down, like that that is where God's calling is on my life. I love that. I love that. That's amazing.
Renee Richel:Um, how do you think the church in general walks alongside singles? Because this is a subject we are constantly talking about. We are surveying right now hundreds of churches in the US to ask them where they're at, feeling like as a company that is all about the matter of the heart, obviously, and love and relationships, but it is really difficult in churches when it comes to what's right to do with people that are single. So, how would you say that you think the church in general walks alongside of singles, um, whether to be never married, divorced, or widowed?
Amanda West:Well, first I will say I have spent most of my Christian walk and in the church being married, not single. So I can't really speak on behalf of being single in the church. Um, I can say that I have had conversations with my pastor on what it is to be a widow in the church, right? And through those conversations, ultimately I'm I'm like, I'm here to help. What can I do to help? Because I know for a man, it is so difficult for him to be able to know what it's like to feel what a widow is going through and what she needs. Ultimately, only another widow would know what a what a widow really needs, right? Right. And a pastor's there to pray for you and what can I do to support you, right? And I have teams to love on you and all of those things. But ultimately, out of those conversations, the church was like, we would love for you to lead a discipleship group for widows. And that was born this year. And it's been, it's been really incredible to watch that and watch the women come in and watch that grow and be able to love on everyone and build that community because that is truly what widows need is community with one another and learning to what are these next steps that I'm taking to walk in life and have questions that other people can't necessarily answer, right?
Renee Richel:Right. Kind of like some churches will have what I hear a lot of our matches clients, whatever, have gone through, which is like a divorce care kind of life group. Right. Right? Grieving and going through the loss of divorce, which in your case is like grieving and going through the loss of a spouse, which are two totally different scenarios. However, they're both grieving in different ways. Yes, yes, absolutely. You know, I mean, in the past, uh churches had certain single groups for certain age demographics. And I get it, right? Because you don't want to put an 80-year-old with a 20-year-old or whatever. However, I do also feel like the intention of these groups are not to match. As a matchmaking company, I'm literally saying that it should be about fellowship and teaching them something, obviously, through the word of the Lord and biblical and scripture and all of that. But the things, it doesn't matter what age you are. It doesn't. I've I mean, I my favorite events are where I put single date, engaged, and married people all together. And we're you know, raising money for a cause for something that is building God's kingdom, but also because you know, whatever age you are, everybody has a story. And my youth learn from my wiser, and my wiser are reminded of what youthful dating used to look like, right? Not dating each other, but being there as accountability, being there as support, being there as mentors to each other. Because I think that's an art that's really lost, that the young kids don't know what to do. And I feel like some of my older, you know, singles are are just also they don't know how to then get back into the dating world, right? Again, it's not about dating, it's about having something to offer of knowledge, education, support for the singles. Um, and so many churches we talk to are like, you know, at the end of the day, we got into ministry. We want to be there to lead our congregation, our community, and support them. Right. We just also can't be therapists and we don't want hookups, and drinking is not something they want to promote, and they don't want to deal with heartbreak when it doesn't work out. And so I get it. It's such a difficult topic and subject among the churches. I mean, there are churches out there that are just for singles, right? And what do you do? Then you leave when you're no longer in that place. And it's something that right now we are trying to grasp and get an idea of like how can us as a company also help these churches to have the material to uh give them strength, encouragement, and power, you know, uh knowledge through these life groups so that it's not so age restricted that if you turn a certain age, you're no longer part of this club, but it's more meant to be fellowship.
Amanda West:I think that's great. And I know within our discipleship. Group. It's of all ages, up to 70, down to like mid 30s, I would say. And I think that's one of the greatest things is that you do have the olders mixed with the youngers, and there's so much wisdom that comes from the older, right? And there's also some that have remarried, but are just coming because they want to help others walk it. They've walked it. It's it's really it's so wonderful because there's so much wisdom, and and they can answer questions about dating and what that looked like for them, right? As they led into a new relationship. And I just I think there's there is so much that comes from mixing ages sometimes and letting that grow. I agree. And I can't, I honestly cannot urge women enough if you are an all, but instead of necessarily looking to the pastor, looking to the church as what can they do for me in this situation? But if you've had time that you've walked this journey for some period of time and you have wisdom under your belt, it's time to step up. What can you do to help in these scenarios? It's not just about the god the Bible calls God calls the church to help the widows. Who's the church? Right? We're the church, right?
Renee Richel:Exactly. Exactly, which I love that. And you know, I think that title, single, is a label that nobody really necessarily wants to advertise, right? Like that's why when we do events, we try to do it for all because we don't nobody wants to walk and be like, oh, there's the single people, right? Like if something's wrong with them, which there's not. I always think like this label, right? In my singlehood, I have to be honest, it was some of the best years of my life. Not that it's not now, right? Being in a relationship, but um, it is it was some of the most intimate time because I had a lot more time to have my relationship with God, right? Yes, and didn't get caught up in the busyness of all the other things that you do as much. And, you know, to my singles per se out there, I think that, you know, it's something that it just there it shouldn't, it shouldn't be a label. And you definitely should not be going into any type of life group and feeling like, okay, I'm single, maybe I'll meet this person. Like they always say, don't go into churches shopping for love, right? You're supposed to be going in to find the fellowship in the community. But even like when we're introducing people, I tell everybody, don't go into this trying to figure out is this gonna be somebody I'm gonna marry today? Go into it with the mindset of God is bringing me somebody amazing. I want to have a curious mind and see how he leads this connection. Absolutely. Period at the end. And I think that's what the problem is in today's singleness, because they are just their eyes are open, their friends are telling them you've got to find somebody. And so that's what if we can change the title for singles to something else so they go into it with an open mind of curiosity fellowship of other like-minded individuals, that would change the entire dynamic of what I feel like these single life groups could really be. I couldn't agree more. We're gonna work on that together, right? I love it. What scripture verse or passage worship song in particular encourage you, encourages you the most?
Amanda West:One of the scriptures that has stuck out to me throughout my walk since I've lost Paul is in Isaiah. It's Isaiah 40, 30, and 31. Okay. And he speaks about waiting on God, and your strength will be renewed, and you will have wings that mount up like an eagle. And I cannot tell you how scary it is when you are in the beginning stages of a huge loss, and how intense and overwhelming life looks moving forward. You feel like it's just this bomb has gone off and you don't even know what's in front of you, right? But if you lean in for God's strength, if you can imagine, picture an eagle in the sky, and when he spreads out those wings, he soars. But if he pulls those wings in, and the more he pulls them in, he just it's not long, pulls them all the way in. Where's he gonna be? On the ground. Have faith like an eagle, spread those wings, and you will not just fly, you will soar.
Renee Richel:I love that, and be able to get back up and fly again, right? That's awesome. That's a great, that is a great image. I love that. That's that's amazing. So, to everyone out there listening to this, I hope that this podcast has resonated with you through Amanda's beautiful story that God has equipped her to be strong, to be a light for your future ahead, since God has truly equipped her from the beginning of his plan for her, for the future of what he has in store. And I can't wait to witness it alongside of you as you inspire so many other people. If you would like more answers or just have questions that you would love to hear from Amanda or us to speak about in another podcast, please write us. And uh, we cannot wait to have you on to answer more questions and speak life into so many other women and just in general with her own journey. We hope that you have an incredible week and can't wait for our next chat. It's been another great talk on this episode of 1 True Talks by Renee Richel. I look forward to our next chat. Please write in your questions and comments so I can be sure to talk about whatever it is you want to discuss in our next upcoming episode. Lots of love. God bless, XOXO.